I met today's guests at a conference in January and practically tackled them during the next break to get them on the podcast to talk about a topic that is fascinating, necessary, and not something we've discussed in depth on the show before - disrupting the education system. Gordy Bal and Philip Moore (who was mentored by Buckminster Fuller!!!), are collaborating to create Xploration Centre, a "wild school" that promotes loved based education. Now before you go rolling your eyes, listen to the show. They share how the current education is setting up children to be ill equipped to exist and thrive in a world where technology is developing at a more rapid pace than any other time in history. Phil schools us on "neoteny" and what that has to do with quality education and development for humans, to be unique, to help them learn and live in questions rather than trying to adhere to curriculums, exactness, and systems that are very exclusive to learning and personality styles. We talk about synergy, what it means to be a global citizen, and more. I don't know that I've ever been more excited about an interview. Enjoy!
About Gordy Bal and Phillip Moore:
Gordy Bal - Alchemist and Visionary
The Xploration Centre is what Gordy has been dreaming of for his own three sons. An education model that connects our children back to nature and prepares them for Xponential times. An education model that embraces entrepreneurial learning and sustainability in a natural environment. A space where young minds can discover their purpose and passion through Xploration and share their superpowers with the world to make it a better place.
Phillip Moore - Synergistic Guide and Educational Innovator
Mentored by Buckminster Fuller, Phillip began teaching at Upland Hills Farm School in 1971. He was asked to become the director of the school in February of 1972 and served until June of 2013. During this 40-year period, Phil developed teams on the staff and board level to grow a learning community.
In this episode, Gordy and Phil share:
1. What it means to be a global citizen
2. What is "eros" and what does it have to do with modern education?
3. Culturing our youth through synergy and consciousness
4. Getting away from trying to "control" children through behavior modification and recognizing all we can stand to learn from them as adults
Money is always a hot topic that stirs up lots of post-show conversation when we get into it with guests so today I've got Jennifer Love, founder of One More Woman and mentor to entrepreneurs at all levels. Collectively, she has been involved in the raising of over $100+ million and over the past 20 years has built several successful companies from the ground up. This woman knows money. In our conversation we cover money as a currency tool to create impact, dealing with money shame, and my favorite part - how to put on your scientist cap to learn, discover, have fun with, and treat money as information. Enjoy!
About Jennifer Love:
Jennifer Love is the Chief Executive Navigator of One More Woman – a fast-track, high-performance educational and advisory company that helps entrepreneurs take the stress out of the money equation so they can effectively raise, make, manage, and give money.
She is a nationally-acclaimed mentor, international business strategist, speaker, and successful leader who has guided thousands of entrepreneurs to position their businesses for long-term, sustainable growth.
Jennifer ignites and charges the GPS system of every entrepreneur by showing them how to believe in themselves and by giving them the tools, support, and advice they need to get out there and make it happen. That makes all the difference – and is what truly sets her apart.
A Serial Entrepreneur…
Jennifer combines 17+ years’ experience building and working with consumer (CPG) brands. Collectively, she has raised, participated in, or advised in the raising of over $100+ million for her and her clients’ ventures.
Under Jennifer’s leadership as a co-founder and former CEO, NibMor went from a kitchen concept to an award-winning wholesale chocolate company, with its products distributed in thousands of locations within five years. NibMor’s impressive growth was acknowledged by The Wall Street Journal and found its way onto two of Oprah’s famed lists, among many others.
Jennifer’s ‘Sweet Success’ was featured on the cover of Small Business Digest in July 2014. In 2015, Jennifer helped one of the brands she advises get funded on Shark Tank, successfully closing out a $1.1M funding round.
Jennifer is a motivating force with an uncanny ability to simplify complicated concepts with her own unique brand of pizazz and sense of humor. Audiences walk away empowered with a newfound enthusiasm and willingness to go beyond what they had ever thought possible.
People often describe Jennifer as brilliant, charismatic, passionate, articulate, resilient, and resourceful. She prides herself on delivering respectful, honest, and direct communication – mixed in with a little spunk!
She is beloved by clients because she gets results. As one client once said, “With Jennifer, the only possible outcome is success.”
On a given day, Jennifer may be found serving as a judge for events like Startup Weekend, on stage speaking to a variety of audiences, advising and educating communities of entrepreneurs on and off-line, advising a client behind the scenes of Biz Fix with Marcus Lemonis, meeting with community leaders and government officials, negotiating with investors, or training entrepreneurs on both mindset and tactical skills.
Jennifer is a contributing writer for the Huffington Post focusing on entrepreneurship, fundraising, and gender disparity in the investment community. She holds a Master’s in Organizational Behavior, a Bachelor’s in Psychology, and is a Certified Health Coach.
An eternal optimist who is also grounded in hard analytics, Jennifer adamantly believes that the future will be led by entrepreneurs that place as much importance on social impact as they do on financial health.
She lives in NYC with her adorable dog, Maggie, who also serves as the company mascot at One More Woman.
In this episode, Jennifer shares:
1. How our relationship to ourself will always reflect our relationship to money and vice versa
2. Closing deals
3. Radical reciprocity
4. Charging and asking for what you're worth
Back in 2012 when I was still in fitness, a friend recommended that I follow JJ Virgin because she was up to "big things" in the industry. It was only a month or so after I did that her son was in an awful hit and run accident. I followed her posts and updates over the ensuing weeks and months to see how it would unfold and was amazed and delighted to see that against major odds, he pulled through and was able to not only live, but recover beyond anyone's wildest imagining - except hers. JJ was pulling for him to be 110% the whole time. In this interview we talk about how she made it through those difficult times, and is still doing so. And my favorite part is this - during a time when a lot of people would have totally excused it if she dropped everything, her healthy habits and self-care, her business, and any other obligations, she doubled down on all of it. She shares her reason why in today's interview and it's so so good. Enjoy!
About JJ Virgin:
Celebrity nutrition and fitness expert JJ Virgin teaches clients how to lose weight and master their mindset so they can lead bigger, better lives. She is author of 4 NY Times bestsellers: The Virgin Diet, The Virgin Diet Cookbook, JJ Virgin’s Sugar Impact Diet, and JJ Virgin’s Sugar Impact Diet Cookbook. Her memoir Miracle Mindset: A Mother, Her Son, & Life’s Hardest Lessons explores the powerful lessons in strength and positivity that she learned after her son Grant was the victim of a brutal hit-and-run accident. JJ hosts the popular JJ Virgin Lifestyle Show podcast and regularly writes for Huffington Post, Rodale Wellness, and other major blogs and magazines. She’s also a frequent guest on TV and radio and speaks at major events. In addition to her work with nutrition and fitness, JJ is also a business coach and founded the premier health entrepreneur event and community, The Mindshare Summit. Find articles, recipes, helpful online programs, and more at www.jjvirgin.com.
In this episode, JJ shares:
1. The toughest times are the most important to step up your focus, mindset, and practices
2. Habits are lifetime things
3. Have hacks in place for when negative stuff comes up
4. Your white knight is you
Today's conversation is a deep one about sex with Layla Martin (pun intended...I couldn't help myself!). Called "The Headmistress of Pleasure" by Women's Health Magazine, Layla spent years studying sexuality at both Stanford University & in the jungles of Asia with Tantric masters. We explored all the things in this chat. From sensuality, play and energetic fullness, to different types of orgasms, better understanding female anatomy, and sexual shame. Related to shame and all the emotions and triggers surrounding sex, we also discussed how our bodies are designed to heal and how sex is not just a pleasure path but a healing one as well. Listen to this one a few times, especially if any of these threads strike a cord for you and of course, let me know what you think!
About Layla Martin:
Layla Martin is the golden standard of holistic sexuality of the millennial generation -- teaching highly intelligent, successful and conscious audiences how to have epic sex and totally incredible relationships through a new approach to the body and intimacy. Her mission is healing and evolving people's conceptions of what sex and relationships truly are. Layla studied human sexuality at Stanford University and then moved to Asia where she worked extensively with Tantric masters for over seven years, mostly in the jungle. All in all, she’s done over ten thousand hours of training in Tantra and sacred sexuality. Her approach is to take this deep wisdom, which is often overlooked because it is cloaked in overly hippy or new-agey language and design and make it highly accessible to young, modern, amazing people by making it entertaining and super fun. Layla brings her knowledge of ancient teachings, and seven years of extensive work with Tantric masters in Asia combined with her foundational education studying human sexuality at Stanford University to hundreds of thousands of people who are suffering from an approach to sex and relationships that has been shaped by hundreds and even thousands of years of old religious and social taboos around these topics that are no longer fully relevant to modern society and yet still play a large role in influencing how we approach love, sex and relationships.
In this episode, Layla shares:
1. Sex education for adults
2. Why cervical orgasms are Layla's favorite
3. How to navigate crying during sex from both partners' perspectives
4. Sexual shame for men and women
Plot twist! For the first time in show history we had a scheduling mishap and had to call an audible. For today's episode I'm flying solo and diving into the topic of break ups. Since my most recent one, a handful of my friends have been seriously encouraging me to write a book called, "How to Break Up Like A Boss," which I'm not going to do, but the reason why is the reason for this podcast episode today. They watched how I took the energy that was going into the relationship and put it into things that were not only important to me for my own healing afterwards, but have helped propel my life, my work and my mission forward tremendously over the last few months. In this episode I cover how to grieve the loss regardless of whose choice it was, how to reclaim the energy that's not longer going into the relationship for yourself, how and when to extract the lessons from the relationship, taking your time, not beating yourself up, and what boundaries are important to have in place to protect and honor your healing. Please share this with anyone you know could use it right now. Break ups are tender times, but they're also ripe with opportunity for growth. I hope my own lessons, learnings, and practices can help.
Big Love, E
Put simply, this episode is about high quality showing up. Satyen Raja is a relationship expert, leader of leaders, and adoring husband and father. We touch on each of these roles in this interview and I invited him to take us the deepest around relationships and personal integrity. We talk about earning things from the school of life, true leadership, the relationship between action and wisdom, short term thrills vs long term aliveness, sexuality as a divine aspect and the deepest terrain of devotion, and shifting from a remedy mindset to an evolutionary mindset. And for those who are just as interested in feminine and masculine energetics as I am, you will LOVE his description of the feminine and masculine triads. This will be one you want to listen to more than once and invite your loved ones to join you for. I can't wait to hear what you think!
About Satyen Raja:
Satyen Raja is the founder of the WarriorSage Group of Companies – umbrella of Ignite Passion Now, Harmony Integration Academy, The Find YourSelf Journey, The Unforgettable Challenge. Through Ignite Passion Now, Satyen, his Wife Suzanne Raja have made it their mission to put a dent in the divorce rate by helping couples ignite their passion, for real, through live interactive entertaining experiences. Harmony Integration Academy is the premiere Coaching training utilizing the latest breakthrough innovative processes ,for those who want to make the deepest and fastest positive life transformations with their clients and themselves,while building a 6 figure plus income. The Find Your Self Journey are Elite Epic Adventure Tours of a lifetime,to exotic lands for persons of influence, desiring their next level of fulfillment, accomplishment and self discovery…. in Indiana Jones style! The Unforgettable Challenge is a one day mental, emotional, physical and spiritual challenge that eliminates the grip of fear and unleashes one`s true invincible power. A challenge shrouded in mystery and world famous in reputation with over 10,000 successful grads ,whom many claim has saved their lives for real.
In this episode, Satyen Raja shares:
1. Silent Power - what it is and why it's a great alternative to the loud and forceful power we're used to as a culture
2. Learning to lead from the "wobble"
3. Different flavors of love
4. When ferociousness is holy and sacred
5. Feminine and Masculine Triads
There is something about being able to relax into a powerful conversation with a woman who is fiery, confident, devoted, embodied, and deeply practiced and experienced that gets me so so excited! In this episode Guru Jugat and I talk about her spiritual path through kundalini yoga, keeping it "real" while doing deep spiritual work, some of the awesome topics from her new book Invincible Living, and for those who love the creative side of things, some of the process of bringing the book to life. I was totally in love with this woman by the time the interview was over, have a feeling many of you will be too. Enjoy!
About Guru Jagat:
Guru Jagat is the youngest senior Kundalini Yoga teacher in the world and the face of the new Kundalini movement. She is the founder of RA MA Institute for Applied Yogic Science and Technology, a premiere Yogic institute with locations in Venice, California and Palma de Mallorca, Spain. Guru Jagat’s other entrepreneurial pursuits include RA MA TV, the “Netflix” of Kundalini Yoga, and her record label RA MA Records. Her first book, Invincible Living, will be published in January 2017 by HarperElixir, an imprint of HarperCollins. She lives in Los Angeles.
In this episode, Guru Jagat shares:
1. Spiritual materialism
2. The importance of having a personal practice
3. The power of lineage
Those of you who listen regularly know how juicy the conversation always gets when our guest is someone I've been wanting to dive in with for a while. Kendra Cunov is one of those people. I lost count of how many people told us we needed to connect and once we finally did, it was totally clear WHY. We jammed on some of your favorite topics in this episode: boundaries, cultivating connection with others and relating to them from a truthful, self-honoring and authentic place, healthy and unhealthy expressions of masculine and feminine energy, and parenting. Enjoy!
About Kendra Kunov:
Co-founder of Authentic World, Kendra Cunov has been teaching, facilitating, and (most importantly) practicing Authentic Relating & Integral Circling for the last fifteen years. She works with organizations, leaders & coaches who know that connection, truth & integrity are actually access points to success.
Kendra has consulted for companies such as Genentech & is currently on staff for 4PC, an elite mastermind for the top 4% of coaches in the world.
She brings a genuine care for people, as well as an extraordinary depth of insight, in service of people living truly fulfilling lives.
In this episode, Kendra shares:
1. Parenting and blended families
2. Authentic relating
3. States of being versus stages of development and how the two interact in life and relationships
4. Visibility and craving connection
Patricia Moreno has been training, mentoring and educating people all over the world for over 30 years. In an effort to end her own struggle with her weight, eating disorders and body image issues, she created The intenSati Method, a life transforming workout which combines her expertise in fitness, dance, martial arts, yoga, nutrition, meditation and spiritual practices.
I remember a few years ago today's guest spoke at a friends' event and hearing some of the people I trust most to be discerning about spiritual mentors absolutely rave about her. Like they couldn't get over how deep and powerful what she shared was for them. I'm happy to report I felt it to by the end of this interview with Patricia Moreno as well. This is one of those kitchen sink conversations where we covered so many things and somehow it all gelled together beautifully. We covered parenting as a spiritual practice, and what to do when the parents don't necessarily agree on everything (and we even got a special visit from her daughters at the end as they got home from school!!). We talked about the problem with a dieting mindset and how to make positive sustainable change, living in the life's questions, transforming your concept of self, and my favorite part - she shared the origin story of her life transforming workout the intenSati Method. Enjoy the interview, I can't wait to hear which part you love most!
About Patricia Moreno:
Patricia Moreno has been training, mentoring and educating people all over the world for over 30 years. In an effort to end her own struggle with her weight, eating disorders and body image issues, she created The intenSati Method, a life transforming workout which combines her expertise in fitness, dance, martial arts, yoga, nutrition, meditation and spiritual practices. Encouraged by her own transformation, and the life changing stories of her students, Patricia has gone on to create several other workouts, courses, and workshops including yogaSati, warriorSati, coreSati, danceSati and the intenSati Leadership Training. She is committed to being a powerful force for positive change in the world, and continues to find revolutionary ways to uplift her students and help them to change, inside and out. Patricia believes that through conscious, intentional living, a commitment to excellence and the power of love, every person is able to live a life filled with peace, happiness and joy.
In this episode, Patricia shares:
1. How to have a mind that follows your will (not the other way around!)
2. How to change your state before you change your behavior
3. Harnessing the power of your brain as an answer seeking machine
Some of you remember my dear friend Jill Coleman from her first appearance on the show in 2016. This time I've invited Jilly back to talk about something very specific that she is SO FREAKING GOOD at helping people with - Food Obsession. If you think about food all the time, beat yourself up about your choices, question yourself about it, feel frozen about making decisions because you've taken in so much conflicting or complicated nutrition information through books, magazines, and programs OR and you regularly don't know what to eat or can't enjoy an easy relationship to food for both vital energy and pleasure without feeling guilty or ashamed this interview will help.
About Jill Coleman:
In addition to launching her personal brand at JillFit.com in 2010, Jill Coleman was a co-founder of Metabolic Effect, Inc. Her 16-year journey in the health and fitness industry began when she got her very first job at a gym just for the free membership at 15!
Since then, it’s a been a whirlwind of education in exercise science and nutrition, fitness competitions, landing several national covers for fitness modeling and plenty of business growth. Her work has been featured in SELF magazine, Family Circle, SHAPE, Women’s Health magazine, Prevention magazine and many online news outlets like Yahoo Health, LiveStrong.com and AOL’s That’s Fit.
Her passion lies in coaching in the areas of mindset, body and business, which she does via her flagship program, The Best Of You (BOY) Coaching Club mentorship, as well as a few signature online programs, like the Mindset Makeover, the Food Obsession Boot Camp and her 52-week exercise program, the Total Training Experience (TTE).
In this episode, Jill shares:
1. Using food as a control mechanism so you can present a certain way
2. Using fullness, hunger, satiety and satisfaction to navigate the best choices for you personally
3. How to deal with all the reasons food creates guilt in your life - not finishing it, over-indulging, etc...
Something I love about young children is that they don't yet have the self-consciousness yet, because they haven't faced much rejection yet, to hold back from simply asking someone to be their friend on the playground. That's how I felt when Tasha Blank and I connected, and the playground was Instagram. The conversation basically went, "Hey I like how you be via your photos and your words, let's be friends." And once I heard her story, I had to have her on the podcast. Today's conversation is the result of a new, innocent, and friendly desire to connect with a kindred soul. We get into altering brain chemistry without using substances, dance as a path to connection, how life is full of maps and it's up to us to discover new territories. This is a really fun one. I know you will discover dormant parts of yourself as you listen and I can't wait to hear what comes up when you do!
About Tasha Blank:
Founder of New York City's legendary afterwork party The Get Down + force behind the global Deep House Yoga movement, Tasha has been a pioneer of positive club culture for nearly a decade.
She creates interactive sonic experiences that catalyze everything from underground warehouse parties and music festivals to morning raves and bass-heavy yoga events, and believes that dance is the quickest path to love in the here + now.
Whether bringing in musicians for spontaneous jams at festivals, or collaborating with her performance group The Get Down Crew to create infectiously high energy atmospheres, she works frequently with a wide range of live musicians including cellists, electric violinists, percussionists, full horn sections, beat boxers and MCs.
Her work with traditional African musicians has brought polyrhythms to 4 on the floor, and her live layered vocals add a soaring beauty and depth to both her deep minimal and big room tribal sonic journeys. Her DJ sets meet you in the moment + invite you on a physio-sonic trip into a newer, bigger you.
Clients, collaborations and features have included Cielo, Output, YouAreSoLucky, FunkBox, Envision Festival, Lightning in a Bottle, Burning Man, House of Yes, Google, Adidas, Samsung, W Hotel, Daybreaker, Luna bar, Yoga Journal, Wanderlust Festival, Lululemon, Elena Brower, Shiva Rea, Stephanie Snyder, DailyMail, Summit Series, Thump, New York Magazine, Thrillist, Refinery29, Flavorpill, Elephant Journal, Mantra Magazine, and MindBodyGreen.
Her weekly emails deliver inspirational words and extraordinary beats to thousands of music-hungry dancing maniacs. And more than anything: she wants to see you let wild your most liberated badassery.
In this episode, Tasha shares:
1. Finding yourself using dance as a path to connection
2. Discerning and interest from a calling
3. Languageless knowing - what it is and how you may experience it
I'm excited to share today's episode with you wild ones. Robert Kandell is not just an uber intelligent, successful and funny dude, he's got a breadth of experience that made for an awesome conversation. We explored many facets of relationships and intimacy, from emotional intelligence and self-awareness, to specific practices around communication and how to intentionally function in partnership by creating processes that prevent boredom, getting sucked into routines or becoming resentful over time. Finally, my favorite thing we got into - how women are getting messed up by their own masculinity. This episode is full of things I know many of you can relate to. Enjoy!
About Robert Kandell:
Hailed as “part football coach, part loving dad, and part slightly crazed drill sergeant” Robert Kandell has spent the last sixteen years helping people re energize their lives and build better relationships through more honest and authentic connection.
After building a successful consulting firm in San Francisco, he then took his business acumen and co-founded OneTaste in 2004 with Nicole Daedone. Taking on the challenging task of bringing conscious sexuality to the mainstream market, Robert built the company from scratch to a high seven-figure international corporation. He left OneTaste in 2014 to start his own Consulting firm helping small businesses become marketable and profitable.
Robert is also an accomplished teacher, coach, and lecturer. He brings his enthusiasm and acumen to his weekly podcast, Tuff Love, on subjects around relationships, intimacy, communication and gender dynamics. For information and recordings, please visit www.TuffLove.live.
In this episode, Robert shares:
1. How to navigate masculinity and femininity in relationships
2. The blunder that changed Rob's life
3. Emotional intelligence among men and women
It's probably about time that I confess to you all that this podcast gig is just as much for me as it is for you. It's the best excuse ever to connect with people I've been dying to connect with anyway - and we just happen to record our great conversations and everybody wins. That's what today's interview felt like with Rachel Rodgers, a woman I respect a ton and appreciate as a badass mom, wife, and business woman in the world. Plus, she is LOUD and hilarious. This interview is fun and rebellious. We talk about bucking traditions, making your own rules, innovating in life and business, and how to spot what your kids are passionate about and encourage them to nurture those things. A quick warning, Rachel might be louder than I am so enjoy listening, and you might want to turn the volume down to start ;)
About Rachel Rodgers:
Rachel is a business lawyer turned business coach, intellectual property strategist, creator of Small Business Bodyguard and all around badass.
Before Rachel was showing service business owners how to build powerful products, she was running a very non-traditional law firm that disrupted the legal industry by making it surprisingly easy (and damn fun) for innovative companies to work with experienced attorneys and get the legal help they need to do the crazy stuff they want to do.
In 2013, she created the Small Business Bodyguard: Cover Your Bases, Cover Your Assets, Cover Your Ass. This game-changing legal resource has been called “fun and engaging” by New York Times bestselling author Chris Brogan and a “graduate-level course on how to build a strong foundation for your business” by CEO of OurDeal, Kyle Durand.
Rachel is known for being an innovator and master of productizing services and creating high-quality, high profit products. SBB and the other legal kits she’s created have been transformative, generating over half a million dollars in revenue in just two years and serving 1,700 small businesses around the country.
Rachel has spoken on the subject of creating products, building solid service businesses and intellectual property in numerous venues including a class on CreativeLive, to MBA students at MIT and at various conferences including, InfusionCon.
Rachel received her J.D. from Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York and her “MBA” the hard way, by building various successful ventures over the last 5+ years and learning from the best business minds out there. Before becoming an entrepreneur Rachel worked for various state and federal judges, a high-impact non-profit and Hillary Rodham Clinton.
When Rachel isn’t taking care of clients or creating new products, she enjoys baking in the kitchen (barefoot, with rosé in hand), lifting weights, juicing (the green kind, not the steroid kind), reading to her toddlers, being a “dance mom” and going on new adventures with her family (her favorite destination being France, of course!).
In this episode, Rachel shares:
1. How to actually do it all (and not hate your life)
2. Evolving your relationship to money
3. Being who you are no matter what
There's a crass saying about break ups that, "The best way to get over someone is to get under someone else." That's certainly one way to go (and I can't say I haven't tried it in the past!), but the route I chose after my most recent one was to zoom in on the experience and really look at how I co-created all the parts that made it not a good fit. It's humbling work, not always pleasant, but so worthwhile for the long term and today's guest has played a pivotal role in the process with me. Terri Cole is a fierce and loving friend, brilliant therapist and coach, and someone with an abundance of wisdom and experience to share. She is super grounded as her new tagline, "It's not magic, it's psychology" indicates, and we dove deep into really important topics smart, highly driven and achievement oriented women (and men) should all be aware of in relationships. From our subconscious drivers and downloaded relationship blueprints to high-functioning co-dependency and gas lighting, this conversation is a big one. Listen more than once and pay attention for the parts that make you want to shut it off because they hit so close to home. We'll be doing a follow up webinar on Jan 11 to go even deeper and take Q+A, too. The link to register for that call as well as some extra resources Terri provided are all in the show notes. Enjoy!
About Terri Cole:
Terri Cole, LCSW, founder and CEO of Live Fearless and Free, is a licensed psychotherapist, transformation coach, and an expert at turning fear into freedom by combining practical psychology, thought innovation, and harnessing the power of intention to create sustainable change.
In this episode, Terri shares:
1. Unraveling control and manipulation in relationships
2. Understanding gas lighting, transference and secondary gain so you can spot them from now on
3. Looking at why we attract less than optimal romantic partners so we can stop doing it
4. Quitting co-dependency